Stock vs. Kitted
I took a chance in San Francisco because my Motron wasn’t ready to ride… I used the 50cc Concord Shadow, with a top speed of around 37mph, stock pipe and everything. I swapped the 14/12 carb for the drilled out 14.27 from my Baretta and crossed my fingers that I wasn’t going to get stranded - California rallies are usually crazy fast, almost everyone has a kitted bike.
After that went reasonably well, I decided to do more to build up my stock bikes. They really aren’t so slow as to be left behind or even be embarrassing. Sometimes I would catch myself passing up a bike I knew to be kitted, and I passed people in corners all over the place, usually only to have them pertly cruise by again as soon as they got their comfortable straight stretch back.
I love going fast, but there’s something about driving a stock slower bike that brings out the crazy competitive road-rage filled cursing-like-a-sailor moped racer in me that is fun as hell. I hardly remembered what it was like to round a corner up a hill as fast as possible, trying to keep up speed.
I think this winter will probably be seeing me in the garage with a dremel and a variety of Minarelli cylinders. So get ready…. Next spring : 50cchallenge! Stock (vintage) bottom end, stock cylinder (no 50cc kits) and you can do what you want with your carb and pipe.
I love my stock bike!
Yeah girl! This 103 is my first proper kitted/tuned bike ever, and I have a lot to learn in that field.
You can look forward to me building up the fastest peugeot with a stock cylinder that anyone’s seen yet.
oops. that was sabatino. here we go.
vintage bottom ends? what determines vintage?
Not 2008 Tomos
ooooohhhh damn!
i really wanted to keep my bike stock but i need a little more hp to carry 60lbs worth of speakers/electronics. expect to have your ear pussies fucked in seattle 2009.
ha! Alright then, so I’m gonna get one of these:
It’s got pedals, I’ll keep it stock, I won’t even tune it, stock pipe, and it’s a 2005.
Someone just has to put enough money in the pot so that it’s worth me spending $1,000 on a moped.
I have no idea what that is, but I know its not a vintage engine.
again, please to be telling me what you mean by vintage? are we going back 10 years? is 1998 vintage? 1988? 1978? I’ve looked it up, and ANTIQUE is defined as 25 years old +, but it seems like vintage is a vague term that mostly has to do with grapes and wine. The word vintage actually came from the french word Vin, which means wine.
We’ve talked about it before, and if vintage to you means just “not new tomos” then that’s retarded. Hell, even “new tomos” is subjective? Is a 2003 Tomos new? Is a 2008 Tomos with 7,000 miles newer than a 1979 Puch with 0 miles on it? It’s just confusing. Maybe Antique engines only would clear this up. No bikes made after 1983?
Quit your shit. I feel like its obvious that vintage is from a period that is not current. As far as mopeds go, that would be mopeds from the previous gas crisis and before, back from the 50s to the early 80s when they briefly fell out of fashion and then became, for all intents and purposes for this discussion, “vintage”, worthy of restoration, grandfathered into DEQ, qualifying for collectors plates, etc.
Your sweatshirt that you bought new when the White Stripes were getting mega radio play is not vintage, neither is that moped from way back in 2005. My 2006 chevy is not a classic car, either.
I’m pretty sure the only reason these terms would need to be expressly defined is if you want to get away with something, and that’s not in the spirit of the race. Make your own race if you don’t like the constraints of the one I’m planning.
So, we’re going with early 80’s, which is what I suggested, as antique. This winter, I’m building up a 78 Tomos Bullet frame, prolly with an early-mid nineties A35 engine. It’ll be 50cc, but apparently won’t count. Either, I take it, will Dean’s Magnamos. If it were stock, would Sabatino’s 88 103 count?
It’s not like I don’t like the constraints of the one you’re planning, you’re just refusing to define the constraints of the one you’re planning.
Right, dean’s magnomos is out. Is the engine on sabatino’s 88 any different from the vintage peugeot engine? I’m not aware. If it’s the same, it’s fine with me. But seeing as that’s irrelevant anyway, who cares?
I like erin. I like zach. I also like 70cc kits though. Have fun with this race.
Now if only I cared to go supa dupa fast. Can’t wait to see what you come up with, Erin.
if i were mechanically cometent enough to get my fucking engine together, i’d be all over this shit! oh wait…my engine is almost together.
I get what erin’s laying down.
I’ll be using a 103 engine for my contribution to the 50cc race. I think i’ll be putting it on the 104 cuz it’s all plastic-y and light.
I love the idea of an actual mechanic’s challenge between some of the best moped mechanics in portland.
FunFunFunFun!